they're going to let this happen to the pentagon? >> i think a lot of the very defense hawks are saying no, we cannot let this happen to the pentagon but the general consensus -- not the general -- >> bill: the tea partiers more. >> broad ranging part of the republican conference and congress is saying we don't want these cuts. if they're avoidable that's great. but if it's -- we're not going to accept tax increase to be able to do it. if it has to happen, then they have to happen. >> bill: that would be -- so friday, march 1. you said something interesting that at least for maybe a few days. so what's that all about? >> i think it is similar to what you saw with the fiscal cliff. i think we technically did tip over the fiscal cliff because we passed december 31st. there having been no deal. i don't know if there's sort of a pressure that once you start to see the economic effects and the air-traffic controllers having trouble doing their job or the fbi agents who are furloughed, i don't know if those effects would product congress t